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| | Vipul: In this talk, I'm going to give definitions |
| | of one-sided limits. |
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| | 0:00:20.740,0:00:25.650 |
| | So it is going to be the left hand limit and |
| | the right hand limit, and I'm going to basically |
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| | 0:00:25.650,0:00:42.650 |
| | compare it with the definition of two-sided limit which was in |
| | a previous video. Let's just write this down--left-hand limit. |
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| | 0:00:44.110,0:00:48.679 |
| | Let me first remind you what the definition |
| | of two-sided limit says. |
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| | 0:00:48.679,0:00:57.679 |
| | So here's what it says. It says limit as x approaches |
| | c, f(x) = L |
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| | 0:00:58.469,0:01:03.140 |
| | so f has to be defined on the immediate left and |
| | the immediate right of c. |
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| | 0:01:03.140,0:01:07.960 |
| | It says that this is true if the following |
| | holds so for every epsilon greater than zero |
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| | 0:01:07.960,0:01:13.960 |
| | there exists a delta > 0 such that for all |
| | x which are within delta of c |
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| | 0:01:14.000,0:01:22.771 |
| | either delta on the left of c or within a delta on the |
| | right of c we have that f(x) is within an epsilon |
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| | 0:01:23.650,0:01:30.530 |
| | distance of L. |
| | Okay. Now with the left and right hand limit |
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| | 0:01:30.530,0:01:37.460 |
| | what we are trying to do we are trying to |
| | consider only one-sided approaches on the, on the x |
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| | 0:01:39.000,0:01:41.510 |
| | What will change when we do the left-hand limit, |
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| | 0:01:42.001,0:01:44.641 |
| | what will be different from this definition? |
| | [ANSWER!] |
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| | 0:01:45.710,0:01:48.330 |
| | Rui: We approach c from the left. |
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| | 0:01:48.330,0:01:52.790 |
| | Vipul: We'll approach c from the left so |
| | what part of this definition will change? [ANSWER!] |
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| | 0:01:52.790,0:01:54.880 |
| | Rui: From the fourth line? |
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| | 0:01:54.880,0:01:56.890 |
| | Vipul: You mean this line? |
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| | 0:01:56.890,0:02:06.810 |
| | Rui: Oh for all x within c distance, within delta distance of c |
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| | 0:02:06.810,0:02:08.700 |
| | Vipul: So what will change? |
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| | 0:02:08.700,0:02:14.020 |
| | Rui: We will not have (c, c + delta). |
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| | 0:02:14.020,0:02:18.390 |
| | Vipul: This part won’t be there. We will |
| | just be concerned about whether when x is |
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| | 0:02:18.390,0:02:23.000 |
| | delta close on the left side of c, f(x) is here... |
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| | 0:02:23.000,0:02:28.000 |
| | Will we change this one also to only include the left? [ANSWER!] |
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| | 0:02:28.000,0:02:30.000 |
| | Or this one will remain as it is? |
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| | 0:02:30.300,0:02:31.500 |
| | Rui: I think it will remain. |
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| | 0:02:31.500,0:02:33.460 |
| | Vipul: It will remain as it is because we |
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| | 0:02:33.460,0:02:35.340 |
| | are just saying as x approaches c from the left |
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| | 0:02:35.340,0:02:36.340 |
| | f(x) approaches L. |
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| | 0:02:36.340,0:02:43.340 |
| | We are not claiming that f(x) approaches L |
| | from the left, okay? Let me make a number line picture. |
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| | 0:02:51.750,0:02:56.130 |
| | We will do a full geometric understanding |
| | of the thing later. Right now it's just very [formal]. |
| | |
| | 0:02:56.130,0:03:00.850 |
| | So the function is defined on the immediate left |
| | of c, maybe not defined at c. It is defined |
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| | on the immediate left of c. |
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| | 0:03:01.920,0:03:06.410 |
| | We don’t even know if the function |
| | is defined on the right of c and what we are |
| | |
| | 0:03:06.410,0:03:13.410 |
| | saying is that for any epsilon, so any epsilon |
| | around L you can find a delta such that if you restrict |
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| | 0:03:13.800,0:03:20.800 |
| | attention to the interval from c minus delta |
| | to c [i.e., (c- delta, c) in math notation] |
| | |
| | 0:03:21.450,0:03:23.130 |
| | then the f value there is within the epsilon distance of L. |
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| | 0:03:24.130,0:03:28.959 |
| | Now the f value could be epsilon to the left |
| | or the right so we take left hand limit on |
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| | 0:03:28.959,0:03:33.840 |
| | the domain side it doesn’t have to approach |
| | from the left on the other side. |
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| | 0:03:33.840,0:03:40.690 |
| | Let me just write down the full definition. We want to keep this on the side. |
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| | 0:03:40.690,0:04:03.690 |
| | What it says that for every epsilon > 0 there |
| | exists |
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| | 0:04:05.180,0:04:16.680 |
| | by the way, the understanding of the what this definition |
| | really means will come in another video you may have seen before this or after this |
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| | 0:04:16.680,0:04:21.209 |
| | ... for all x ... [continuing definition] |
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| | 0:04:21.209,0:04:26.500 |
| | Now we should also change it if we are writing |
| | in this form so how will it read now? |
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| | 0:04:26.500,0:04:28.030 |
| | Rui: For all x ... |
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| | 0:04:35.000,0:04:38.000 |
| | Vipul: So will you put x – c or c – x? [ANSWER!] |
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| | 0:04:38.330,0:04:40.990 |
| | Rui: It will be x – c, oh c – x. |
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| | 0:04:41.000,0:04:46.760 |
| | Vipul: c – x. Because you want c to be bigger |
| | than x. You want x to be on the left of c. |
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| | 0:04:46.850,0:05:01.850 |
| | What would this read, i.e. x is in (c – delta,c). |
| | Okay. |
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| | 0:05:05.000,0:05:11.460 |
| | What do we have? We have the same thing. This part doesn’t change. |
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| | 0:05:13.000,0:05:19.000 |
| | Rui: f(x) is within epsilon distance of L. |
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| | 0:05:34.400,0:05:40.400 |
| | Vipul: Why do I keep saying this thing about the |
| | L approach doesn’t have to be from the left? |
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| | 0:05:41.000,0:05:44.350 |
| | What’s the significance of that? Why is that important? |
| | [ANSWER!] |
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| | 0:05:45.000,0:05:51.000 |
| | Rui: It’s important because we don’t know |
| | whether the function is decreasing or increasing |
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| | 0:05:51.620,0:05:52.370 |
| | at that point. |
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| | 0:05:52.370,0:05:55.750 |
| | Vipul: Yeah, so if your function is actually |
| | increasing than L will also be approached |
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| | 0:05:55.750,0:06:01.590 |
| | from the left, and if it’s decreasing it |
| | will be approached from the right, but sometimes |
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| | 0:06:01.590,0:06:07.590 |
| | it’s neither increasing nor decreasing, but it's still |
| | true it approaches from one side, so that’s a |
| | little complicated but the way |
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| | 0:06:07.590,0:06:12.150 |
| | this comes up is that when you are dealing |
| | with composition of functions, so when you |
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| | are doing one function and then applying another function to that and you have some results |
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| | with one-sided limits. |
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| | 0:06:18.440,0:06:30.440 |
| | Let me just write this down. If you have one-sided |
| | limits and you have composition, |
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| | 0:06:31.610,0:06:39.550 |
| | so you are doing one function and then doing another |
| | you have to be very careful. |
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| | 0:06:45.050,0:06:48.350 |
| | You need to be very careful when you are doing |
| | one-sided limits and composition. |
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| | 0:06:48.360,0:06:57.360 |
| | Why? Because if you have g of f(x) and x approaches |
| | to c from the left, f(x) approaches L but |
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| | 0:06:57.850,0:06:59.280 |
| | not necessarily from the left. |
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| | 0:06:59.280,0:07:03.560 |
| | You then you have another thing which is as |
| | f(x) approaches L from the left, g of that |
| | |
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| | approaches something you just need to be careful |
| | that when you compose things the sidedness |
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| | 0:07:09.280,0:07:10.930 |
| | could change each time you compose. |
| | |
| | 0:07:10.930,0:07:14.590 |
| | Rui: Can you write a composition of the function |
| | out? |
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| | 0:07:14.590,0:07:17.870 |
| | Vipul: Not in this video. We will do that |
| | in another video. |
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| | 0:07:17.870,0:07:23.800 |
| | That’s something we will see in a subsequent |
| | video but this is just something to keep in |
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| | 0:07:23.800,0:07:27.770 |
| | mind so when you see that it will ring a bell. |
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| | 0:07:30.770,0:07:31.880 |
| | Let us do... what other side is left? [pun unintended!] |
| | Rui: Right? |
| | Vipul: Right! |
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| | 0:07:31.880,0:07:36.690 |
| | Vipul: By the way, you probably already know |
| | this if you have seen limits intuitively so |
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| | 0:07:36.690,0:07:42.300 |
| | I'm not stressing this too much but left hand |
| | limit is really the limit as you approach |
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| | from the left. You are not moving toward the |
| | left you are moving from the left to the point. |
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| | Right hand limit will be approach from the |
| | right to the point so it is right, moving from |
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| | 0:07:55.940,0:07:59.330 |
| | the right, so the words left and right are |
| | describing where the limit is coming *from*, |
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| | 0:07:59.330,0:08:06.330 |
| | not the direction which it is going to. |
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| | 0:08:12.569,0:08:17.650 |
| | Now you can just tell me what will be the |
| | corresponding thing. To make sense of this |
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| | 0:08:17.650,0:08:19.819 |
| | notion we need f to be defined where? [ANSWER!] |
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| | 0:08:19.819,0:08:21.699 |
| | Rui: On its right. |
| | |
| | 0:08:21.699,0:08:29.199 |
| | Vipul: On the immediate right of c. If it |
| | is not defined on the immediate right it doesn’t |
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| | 0:08:29.389,0:08:36.389 |
| | even make sense to ask this question what |
| | the right hand limit is. |
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| | 0:08:37.280,0:08:38.550 |
| | How will that be defined? |
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| | 0:08:38.550,0:08:44.240 |
| | Rui: For every epsilon greater than zero |
| | |
| | 0:08:44.240,0:08:51.240 |
| | Vipul: The epsilon is the interval on which |
| | you are trying to trap the function value. |
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| | 0:08:51.500,0:08:54.279 |
| | Rui: There exists epsilon |
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| | 0:08:54.279,0:08:55.890 |
| | Vipul: No, delta |
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| | 0:08:55.890,0:09:14.890 |
| | Rui: delta> 0 such that for all x |
| | with x – c > 0 |
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| | 0:09:15.040,0:09:22.040 |
| | Vipul: The general one is for all x with 0<|x-c|<delta |
| | because you want to capture both the intervals. |
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| | In this one, the left hand limit one, we just |
| | captured the left side interval. |
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| | 0:09:29.270,0:09:39.270 |
| | Now in the right one we just want to capture |
| | the right side interval, so as you said 0< x- c < delta. |
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| | 0:09:44.180,0:09:51.480 |
| | In the picture, the function is defined, say c |
| | to c + t and you are really saying you can |
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| | find delta if x is in here [between c and c + delta] which |
| | actually... this is not including c, it is all the points |
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| | 0:10:00.390,0:10:05.390 |
| | in the immediate right of c. We have? [ANSWER!] |
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| | 0:10:06.000,0:10:13.000 |
| | Rui: The absolute value of f(x) – L is less |
| | than epsilon. |
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| | 0:10:20.010,0:10:22.010 |
| | Vipul: So f(x) is? Are we here? We have everything? |
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| | 0:10:23.010,0:10:23.260 |
| | Rui: Yes. |
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| | 0:10:26.190,0:10:30.890 |
| | Vipul: We have both of these here? So do you |
| | see what’s the main difference between these |
| | |
| | 0:10:30.890,0:10:37.430 |
| | two and the actual [two-sided limit] definition? |
| | |
| | 0:10:37.430,0:10:42.930 |
| | For every epsilon there exists delta... the |
| | first second and fourth line remain the same. |
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| | 0:10:42.930,0:10:47.440 |
| | It is this line where you are specifying where |
| | the x are that’s different. |
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| | 0:10:47.440,0:10:53.000 |
| | In the two-sided thing the x could be either place. |
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| | 0:10:53.300,0:10:55.200 |
| | For the left hand limit the x, |
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| | 0:10:55.720,0:10:59.000 |
| | you just want x here [in (c - delta, c)] and |
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| | 0:10:59.000,0:11:07.000 |
| | for the right hand limit you just want x in (c,c + delta). |
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| | 0:11:07.000,0:11:09.000 |
| | Okay? [END!]</toggledisplay> |
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| ===Relation between the limit notions=== | | ===Relation between the limit notions=== |
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Motivation
Quick summary
The term "limit" in mathematics is closely related to one of the many senses in which the term "limit" is used in day-to-day English. In day-to-day English, there are two uses of the term "limit":
- Limit as something that one approaches, or is headed toward
- Limit as a boundary or cap that cannot be crossed or exceeded
The mathematical term "limit" refers to the first of these two meanings. In other words, the mathematical concept of limit is a formalization of the intuitive concept of limit as something that one approaches or is headed toward.
For a function , the notation:
is meant to say "the limit, as approaches , of the function value " and thus, the mathematical equality:
is meant to say "the limit, as approaches , of the function value , is ." In a rough sense, what this means is that as gets closer and closer to , eventually comes, and stays, close enough to .
Graphical interpretation
The graphical interpretation of "" is that, if we move along the graph of the function in the plane, then the graph approaches the point whether we make approach from the left or the right. However, this interpretation works well only if is continuous on the immediate left and immediate right of .
This interpretation is sometimes termed the "two finger test" where one finger is used to follow the graph for slightly less than and the other finger is used to follow the graph for slightly greater than .
Two key ideas
The concept of limit involves two key ideas, both of which help explain why the definition is structured the way it is:
- Arbitrarily close: The limit depends on how things behave arbitrarily close to the point involved. The notion of "arbitrarily close" is difficult to quantify non-mathematically, but what it means is that any fixed distance is too much. For instance, if doing , we can take points close to 2 such as 2.1, 2.01, 2.001, 2.0001, 2.0000001, 2.000000000000001. Any of these points, viewed in and of itself, is too far from 2 to offer any meaningful information. It is only the behavior in the limit, as we get arbitrarily close, that matters.
- Trapping of the function close by: For a function to have a certain limit at a point, it is not sufficient to have the function value come close to that point. Rather, for to hold, it is necessary that for very close to , the function value is trapped close to . It is not enough that it keeps oscillating between being close to and being far from .
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Vipul: Okay, so in this talk, I'm going to
go over the basic
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motivation behind the definition of limit,
and not so much the
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epsilon-delta definition. That was just an intuitive idea,
and a few somewhat
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non-intuitive aspects of that.
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Here I have the notation: "limit as x approaches
c of f(x) is L" is
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written like this. Limit ... Under the limit,
we write where the
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domain point goes, so x is approaching a value,
c, and c could be an
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actual number. x, however, will always be
a variable letter. This x
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will not be a number. c could be a number
like zero, one, two, three,
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or something.
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f(x). f is the function. We are saying that
as x approaches some
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number c, f(x) approaches some number L, and
thatâs what this is:
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Limit as x approaches c of f(x) is L.
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Now what does this mean? Roughly what it means
is that as x is coming
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closer and closer to c, f(x) is sort of hanging
around L. Itâs coming
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closer and closer to L. By the way, there
are two senses in which the
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word limit is used in the English language:
One meaning its limit in
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this approach sense, which is the mathematical
meaning of limit.
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There is another sense in which the word limit
is used in the English
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language, which is limit as a boundary or
a as a gap or as a bound.
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We may say, there is a limit to how many apples
you can eat from the
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food vault or something, and that sense of
limit is not used ... for
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that sense of limit you do not use the word
"limit" in mathematics. For
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that sense of limit, you use the word bound.
In mathematics, we
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reserve the use of the word limit only for
this approach sense. Just
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so we donât get confused in mathematics.
As I said, the idea is that
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as x approaches c, f(x) approaches L, so as
x is coming closer and
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closer to c, the distance between x and c
is becoming smaller and
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smaller, the distance between f(x) and L is
also roughly becoming
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smaller and smaller. This doesnât quite
work unless your function is
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increasing or decreasing near c, so you could
have various
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complications with oscillatory functions,
so the point is this notion
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doesnât really ⦠it's not very clear what
we mean here without further
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elaboration and without a clear definition.
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I'm going to sort of move up toward the definition,
and before we go
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there, I want to say, that there is a graphical
concept of limit,
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which you may have seen in school. (well,
if youâve seen limits in
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school, which hopefully you have. This video
is sort of more of a
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review type than learning it for the first
time). Let's try to
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understand this from that point of view.
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Let's say, you have a function whose graph
looks something like this.
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This is x of c, so this is the value x of
c, and this is a graph of
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the function, these curves are the graph of
the function, so where x
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is less than c, the graph is along this curve.
For x greater than c,
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the graph is this curve. So x less than c,
the graph is this curve; x
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greater than c, the graph is this curve. At
x equal to c, the value
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is that filled dot.
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You can see from here that as x is approaching
c from the left, so if
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you take values of x, which are slightly less
than c, the function
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values ⦠so the function, the graph of it,
the function values are
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their prospective Y coordinates, so this is
x, this is Y, this is the
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graph. Y is f(x). When x is to the initial
left of c, the value, Y
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value, the Y approach f(x) value is ⦠are
these values, so this or
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this. As x approaches c from the left, the
Y values are approaching
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the Y coordinate of this open circle.
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In a sense, if you just were looking at the
limit from the left for x
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approaching c from the left, then the limit
would be the Y coordinate
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of this open circle. You can also see an x
approaches c from the
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right, so approaches from here ⦠the Y coordinate
is approaching the Y
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coordinate of this thing, this open circle
on top. There are actually
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two concepts here, the left-hand limit
is this value. We will call
this L1. The right-hand limit is this value,
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L2, so the left-hand
limit, which is the notation as limit as x
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approaches c from the left
of f(x) is L1, the right-hand limit from the
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right, thatâs plus of f(x),
is L2, and the value f of c is some third
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number. We donât know what
it is, but f of c, L1, L2, are in this case
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all different.
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What does this mean as far as the limit is
concerned? Well, the
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concept of limit is usually a concept of two
sides of limit, which
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means that in this case the limit as x approaches
c of f(x) does not
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exist because you have a left-hand limit,
and you have a right-hand
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limit, and they are not equal to each other.
The value, as such,
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doesnât matter, so whether the value exists,
what it is, does not
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affect this concept of limit, but the real
problem here is that the
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left-hand limit and right-hand limit are not
equal. The left-hand
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limit is here; the right-hand limit is up
here.
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This graphical interpretation, you see the
graphical interpretation is
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sort of that. For the left-hand limit, you
basically sort of follow
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the graph on the immediate left and see where
it's headed to and you
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get the Y coordinate of that. For the right-hand
limit, you follow
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the graph on the right and see where they're
headed to, and add the Y
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coordinate of that.
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Let me make an example, where the limit does
exist. Let's say you
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have a picture, something like this. In this
case, the left-hand limit
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and right-hand limit are the same thing, so
this number, but the
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values are different. You could also have
a situation where the value
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doesnât exist at all. The function isn't
defined at the point, but
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the limits still exist because the left-hand
limit and right-hand
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limit are the same.
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Now, all these examples, they're sort of a
crude way of putting this
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idea, which is called the two-finger test.
You may have heard it in
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some slightly different names. The two-finger
test idea is that you
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use one finger to trace the curve on the immediate
left and see where
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thatâs headed to, and use another finger
to trace the curve on the
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immediate right and see where thatâs headed
to, and if your two
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fingers can meet each other, then the place
where they meet, the Y
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coordinate of that, is the limit. If, however,
they do not come to
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meet each other, which happens in this case,
one of them is here, one
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is here, and then the limit doesnât exist
because the left-hand limit
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and right-hand limit are not equal.
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This, hopefully, you have seen in great detail
where youâve done
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limits in detail in school. However, what
I want to say here is that
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this two-finger test is not really a good
definition of limit. Whatâs
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the problem? The problem is that you could
have really crazy
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function, and it's really hard to move your
finger along the graph of
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the function. If the function sort of jumps
around a lot, it's really
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hard, and it doesnât really solve any problem.
It's not really a
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mathematically pure thing. It's like trying
to answer the
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mathematical question using a physical description,
which is sort of
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the wrong type of answer.
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While this is very good for a basic intuition
for very simple types of
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functions, it's not actually the correct idea
of limit. What kind of
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things could give us trouble? Why do we need
to define our
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understanding of limit? The main thing is
functions which have a lot
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of oscillation. Let me do an example.
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I'm now going to write down a type of function
where, in fact, you
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have to develop a pure cut concept of limit
to be able to answer this
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question precisely. This is a graph of a function,
sine 1 over x.
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Now this looks a little weird. It's not 1
over sine x; that would
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just equal secant x. It's not that. It's sine
of 1 over x, and this
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function itself is not defined at x equals
zero, but just the fact
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that thatâs not defined, isn't good enough
for us to say the limit
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doesn't [inaudible 00:10:36] we actually have
to try to make a picture
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of this and try to understand what the limit
is here.
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Let's first make the picture of sine x. Sine-x
looks like that. How
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will sine 1 over x look? Let's start of where
x is nearly infinity.
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When x is very large positive, 1 over x is
near zero, slightly
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positive, just slightly bigger than zero,
and sine 1 over x is
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therefore slightly positive. It's like here.
It's going to start up
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with an S [inaudible 00:11:21] at zero. Then
it's going to sort of go
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this path, but much more slowly, each one,
then it's going to go this
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path, but in reverse, so like that. Then it's
going to go this path,
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but now it does all these oscillations, all
of these oscillations. It
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has to go faster and faster.
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For instance, this is pi, this 1 over pi,
then this is 2 pi, this
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number is 1 over 2 pi, then the then next
time it reaches zero will be
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1 over 3 pi, and so on. Whatâs going to
happen is that near zero it's
0:12:21.160,0:12:24.579
going to be crazily oscillating between minus
1, and 1. The frequency
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of the oscillation keeps getting faster and
faster as you come closer
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and closer to zero. The same type of picture
on the left side as
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well; it's just that it's an odd function.
It's this kind of picture.
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I'll make a bigger picture here ... I'll make
a bigger picture on another
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one. all of these oscillation should be between
minus 1 and 1, and we
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get faster so we get faster and faster, and
now my pen is too thick.
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It's the same, even if you used your finger
instead of the pen to
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place it, it would be too thick, it's called
the thick finger problem.
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Iâm not being very accurate here, but just
the idea. The pen or
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finger is too thick, but actually, there's
a very thin line, and it's
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an infinitely thin line of the graph, which
goes like that.
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Let's get back to our question: What is limit
as x approaches zero,
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sine 1 over x. I want you to think about this
a bit. Think about like
0:14:13.439,0:14:18.050
the finger test. You move your finger around,
move it like this,
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this, this ⦠you're sort of getting close
to here but still not quite
0:14:21.579,0:14:28.579
reaching it. It's ⦠where are you headed?
It's kind of a little
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unclear. Notice, it's not that just because
we plug in zero doesnât
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make sense, the limit doesn't... Thatâs
not the issue. The issue is
0:14:39.170,0:14:43.249
that after you make the graph, it's unclear
whatâs happening.
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One kind of logic is that the other limit
is zero? Why? Well, it's
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kind of balance around here. It's a bit above
and below, and it keeps
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coming close to zero. That any number of the
form x is 1 over N pi,
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sine 1 over x is zero. It keeps coming close
to zero. As x
0:15:07.990,0:15:12.459
approaches zero, this number keeps coming
close to zero.
0:15:12.459,0:15:17.449
If you think of limit as something thatâs
approaching, then as x
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approaches zero, sine 1 over x is sort of
coming close to zero, is it?
0:15:31.230,0:15:36.550
It's definitely coming near zero, right? Anything
you make around
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zero, any small ⦠this you make around zero,
the graph is going to
0:15:41.920,0:15:42.399
enter that.
0:15:42.399,0:15:47.269
On the other hand, it's not really staying
close to zero. It's kind of
0:15:47.269,0:15:50.300
oscillating with the minus 1 and 1. However,
smaller interval you
0:15:50.300,0:15:54.540
take around zero on the x thing, the function
is oscillating between
0:15:54.540,0:15:57.600
minus 1 and 1. It's not staying faithful to
zero.
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Now you have kind of this question: What should
be the correct
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definition of this limit? Should it mean that
it approaches the
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point, but maybe goes in and out, close and
far? Or should it mean it
0:16:15.100,0:16:18.879
approaches and stays close to the point? That
is like a judgment you
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have to make in the definition, and it so
happens that people who
0:16:22.629,0:16:28.639
tried defining this chose the latter idea;
that is, it should come
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close and stay close. So thatâs actually
key idea number two we have
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here the function ⦠for the function to
have a limit at the point, the
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function needs to be trapped near the limit,
close to the point in the
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domain.
0:16:45.079,0:16:49.459
This is, therefore, it doesnât have a limit
at zero because the
0:16:49.459,0:16:54.420
function is oscillating too widely. You cannot
trap it. You cannot
0:16:54.420,0:17:01.059
trap the function values. You cannot say thatâ¦
you cannot trap the
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function value, say, in this small horizontal
strip near zero. You
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cannot trap in the area, so that means the
limit cannot be zero, but
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the same logic works anywhere else. The limit
cannot be half, because
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you cannot trap the function in a small horizontal
strip about half
0:17:20.440,0:17:22.130
whereas x approaches zero.
0:17:22.130,0:17:26.440
We will actually talk about this example in
great detail in our future
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with you after we've seen the formal definition,
but the key idea you
0:17:30.330,0:17:33.890
need to remember is that the function doesnât
just need to come close
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to the point of its limit. It actually needs
to stay close. It needs
0:17:37.340,0:17:41.050
to be trapped near the point.
0:17:41.050,0:17:44.810
The other important idea regarding limits
is that the limit depends
0:17:44.810,0:17:50.370
only on the behavior very, very close to the
point. What do I mean by
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very, very close? If you were working it like,
the real goal, you may
0:17:56.580,0:18:02.300
say, it's like, think of some really small
number and you say that
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much distance from it. Let's say I want to
get the limit as x
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approaches 2...I'll just write it here. I
want to get, let's say,
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limit has x approaches 2 of some function,
we may say, well, we sort
0:18:30.550,0:18:37.550
of ⦠whatâs close enough? Is 2.1 close
enough? No, thatâs too far.
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What about 2.0000001? Is that close enough?
0:18:43.380,0:18:47.420
Now, if you werenât a mathematician, you
would probably say, "Yes,
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this is close enough." The difference is like
... so it's
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10^{-7}. It's really only close to 2 compared
to our usual sense of
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numbers, but as far as mathematics is concerned,
both of these numbers
0:19:16.670,0:19:21.110
are really far from 2. Any individual number
that is not 2 is very
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far from 2.
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What do I mean by that, well, think back to
one of our
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pictures. Here's a picture. Supposed I take
some points. Let's say
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this is 2, and suppose I take one point here,
which is really close to
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2, and I just change the value of the function
at that point. I
0:19:50.970,0:19:55.200
change the value of the function at that point,
or I just change the
0:19:55.200,0:19:59.990
entire picture of the graph from that point
rightward. I just take
0:19:59.990,0:20:05.940
this picture, and I change it to, let's say
⦠so I replace this
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picture by that picture, or I replace the
picture by some totally new
0:20:11.410,0:20:15.250
picture like that picture. I just change the
part of the graph to the
0:20:15.250,0:20:21.440
right of some point, like 2.00001, whatever.
Will that effect the
0:20:21.440,0:20:25.770
limit at 2? No, because the limit at 2 really
depends only on the
0:20:25.770,0:20:27.520
behavior if you're really, really close.
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If you take any fixed point, which is not
2, and you change the
0:20:32.040,0:20:35.000
behavior sort of at this time that point or
farther away than that
0:20:35.000,0:20:42.000
point, then the behavior close to 2 doesnât
get affected. Thatâs the
0:20:42.820,0:20:46.660
other key idea here. Actually I did these
in [inaudible 00:20:30].
0:20:46.660,0:20:52.060
Thatâs how it is coming, actually, but I'll
just say it again.
0:20:52.060,0:20:56.570
The limit depends on the behavior arbitrarily
close to the point. It
0:20:56.570,0:21:00.210
doesnât depend on the behavior at any single
specific other point. It
0:21:00.210,0:21:06.910
just depends on the behavior as you approach
the point and any other
0:21:06.910,0:21:11.330
point is far away. It's only sort of together
that all the other
0:21:11.330,0:21:16.230
points matter, and it's only them getting
really close that
0:21:16.230,0:21:19.790
matters. The other thing is that the function
actually needs to be
0:21:19.790,0:21:26.790
tracked near the point for the limit notion
to be true. This type of
0:21:26.860,0:21:29.650
picture where it's oscillating between minus
1 and 1, however close
0:21:29.650,0:21:35.150
you get to zero, keeps oscillating, and so
you cannot trap it around
0:21:35.150,0:21:40.590
any point. You cannot trap the function value
in any small enough
0:21:40.590,0:21:47.590
strip. In that case, the limit doesnât exist.
In subsequent videos,
0:21:48.550,0:21:54.630
we'll see Epsilon definition, we'll do a bit
of formalism to that, and
0:21:54.630,0:22:00.640
then we'll come back to some of these issues
later with the formal
0:22:00.640,0:22:01.870
understanding.
Definition for finite limit for function of one variable
Two-sided limit
Suppose is a function of one variable and is a point such that is defined to the immediate left and immediate right of (note that may or may not be defined at ). In other words, there exists some value such that is defined on .
For a given value , we say that:
if the following holds (the single sentence is broken down into multiple points to make it clearer):
- For every (the symbol is a Greek lowercase letter pronounced "epsilon")
- there exists such that (the symbol is a Greek lowercase letter pronounced "delta")
- for all satisfying (explicitly, ),
- we have (explicitly, ).
The limit (also called the two-sided limit) is defined as a value such that . By the uniqueness theorem for limits, there is at most one value of for which . Hence, it makes sense to talk of the limit when it exists.
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Vipul: In this talk, I'm going to introduce
the definition, the formal epsilon delta definition
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of a two-sided limit for a function of a one
variable, that's called f.
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I'm going to assume there is a point c and c
doesn't actually have to be in the domain of f.
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Thus f doesn't have to be defined at c for this notion to
make sense rather f is defined around c.
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What that means is f is defined on some open
set containing c.
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Let's make a picture here so you have c,
c + t, c -- t.
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What this is saying is there is some t probably
small enough so that the function is defined
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in here and may be it's not defined at the
point c.
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This set for some t>0. The function is defined
on the immediate left of c and it is defined
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on the immediate right of c.
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We need that in order to make sense of what
I'm going to say.
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We say that limit as x approaches c of f(x)
is L where L is some other real number or
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maybe it's the same real number [as c], so we say
this limit equals L, now I'll write the definition
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in multiple lines just to be clear about the
parts of the definition.
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For every epsilon > 0. This is epsilon. There
exists delta > 0 such that
for all x in R satisfying...what?
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Rui: Satisfying |x -- c| ...
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Vipul: [|x-c|] should be not equal to zero so zero
less than, exclude the point c itself,
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less than delta. What do we have?
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Rui: We have y is within.
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Vipul: Well y is just f(x).
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Rui: f(x_0)
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Vipul: Well f(x) minus the claimed limit is?
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Rui: L.
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Vipul: You're thinking of continuity which is a
little different but here we have this less than?
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Rui: Epsilon.
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Vipul: Epsilon. Let me now just re-write these
conditions in interval notation.
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What is this saying x in what interval? [ANSWER!]
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Rui: c +- ...
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Vipul: c- delta to c + delta excluding the
point c itself, that is what 0 < [|x -- c|] is telling us.
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It is telling us x is within delta distance
of c, but it is not including c.
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Another way of writing this is (c -- delta,c) union (c, c + delta)
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x is either on immediate delta left of c or
it's on the immediate delta right of c.
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You do something similar on the f(x) side
so what interval is this saying, f(x) is in what? [ANSWER!]
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Rui: L -- epsilon, L + epsilon.
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Vipul: Awesome. Instead of writing the conditions
in this inequality form you could have written
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them in this form, so instead of writing this
you could have written this or this, instead
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of writing this you could have written this.
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If this statement is true, the way you read this is you say
limit as x approaches c of f(x) equals L.
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Okay. Now how do we define the limit?
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It's the number L for which the above holds. This should be
in quotes.
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If a number L exists for which.
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Now what would you need in order to show that
this definition makes sense?
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Rui: I don't think I understand your question.
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Vipul: What I mean is, what I wanted to ask
was what would you need to prove in order
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to say the notion of the limit makes sense? Well,
you need to show that there is uniqueness here.
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It cannot happen that the limit is some number
L and the limit is another number M so you
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need to show uniqueness.
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You need to show that if this holds for one
number L it cannot also hold for another number.
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Once you have shown that then it you could
define it like this.
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Now I should say "if it exists."
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What I'm saying is that there is a uniqueness
theorem which we will prove some other time.
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Which says that if this is true for one number
it cannot be true for any other number so
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this statement is true for at the most one
value of L and if there is such a value of
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L that's called the limit.
Note: Although the definition customarily uses the letters and , any other letters can be used, as long as these letters are different from each other and from the letters already in use. The reason for sticking to a standard letter choice is that it reduces cognitive overload.
Left hand limit
Suppose is a function of one variable and is a point such that is defined on the immediate left of (note that may or may not be defined at ). In other words, there exists some value such that is defined on .
For a given value , we say that:
if the following holds (the single sentence is broken down into multiple points to make it clearer):
- For every
- there exists such that
- for all satisfying (explicitly, ),
- we have (explicitly, .
The left hand limit (acronym LHL) is defined as a value such that . By the uniqueness theorem for limits (one-sided version), there is at most one value of for which . Hence, it makes sense to talk of the left hand limit when it exists.
Right hand limit
Suppose is a function of one variable and is a point such that is defined on the immediate right of (note that may or may not be defined at ). In other words, there exists some value such that is defined on .
For a given value , we say that:
if the following holds (the single sentence is broken down into multiple points to make it clearer):
- For every
- there exists such that
- for all satisfying (explicitly, ),
- we have (explicitly, .
The right hand limit (acronym RHL) is defined as a value such that . By the uniqueness theorem for limits (one-sided version), there is at most one value of for which . Hence, it makes sense to talk of the right hand limit when it exists.
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Vipul: In this talk, I'm going to give definitions
of one-sided limits.
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So it is going to be the left hand limit and
the right hand limit, and I'm going to basically
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compare it with the definition of two-sided limit which was in
a previous video. Let's just write this down--left-hand limit.
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Let me first remind you what the definition
of two-sided limit says.
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So here's what it says. It says limit as x approaches
c, f(x) = L
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so f has to be defined on the immediate left and
the immediate right of c.
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It says that this is true if the following
holds so for every epsilon greater than zero
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there exists a delta > 0 such that for all
x which are within delta of c
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either delta on the left of c or within a delta on the
right of c we have that f(x) is within an epsilon
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distance of L.
Okay. Now with the left and right hand limit
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what we are trying to do we are trying to
consider only one-sided approaches on the, on the x
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What will change when we do the left-hand limit,
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what will be different from this definition?
[ANSWER!]
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Rui: We approach c from the left.
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Vipul: We'll approach c from the left so
what part of this definition will change? [ANSWER!]
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Rui: From the fourth line?
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Vipul: You mean this line?
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Rui: Oh for all x within c distance, within delta distance of c
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Vipul: So what will change?
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Rui: We will not have (c, c + delta).
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Vipul: This part won’t be there. We will
just be concerned about whether when x is
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delta close on the left side of c, f(x) is here...
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Will we change this one also to only include the left? [ANSWER!]
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Or this one will remain as it is?
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Rui: I think it will remain.
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Vipul: It will remain as it is because we
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are just saying as x approaches c from the left
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f(x) approaches L.
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We are not claiming that f(x) approaches L
from the left, okay? Let me make a number line picture.
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We will do a full geometric understanding
of the thing later. Right now it's just very [formal].
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So the function is defined on the immediate left
of c, maybe not defined at c. It is defined
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on the immediate left of c.
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We don’t even know if the function
is defined on the right of c and what we are
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saying is that for any epsilon, so any epsilon
around L you can find a delta such that if you restrict
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attention to the interval from c minus delta
to c [i.e., (c- delta, c) in math notation]
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then the f value there is within the epsilon distance of L.
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Now the f value could be epsilon to the left
or the right so we take left hand limit on
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the domain side it doesn’t have to approach
from the left on the other side.
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Let me just write down the full definition. We want to keep this on the side.
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What it says that for every epsilon > 0 there
exists
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by the way, the understanding of the what this definition
really means will come in another video you may have seen before this or after this
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... for all x ... [continuing definition]
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Now we should also change it if we are writing
in this form so how will it read now?
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Rui: For all x ...
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Vipul: So will you put x – c or c – x? [ANSWER!]
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Rui: It will be x – c, oh c – x.
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Vipul: c – x. Because you want c to be bigger
than x. You want x to be on the left of c.
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What would this read, i.e. x is in (c – delta,c).
Okay.
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What do we have? We have the same thing. This part doesn’t change.
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Rui: f(x) is within epsilon distance of L.
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Vipul: Why do I keep saying this thing about the
L approach doesn’t have to be from the left?
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What’s the significance of that? Why is that important?
[ANSWER!]
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Rui: It’s important because we don’t know
whether the function is decreasing or increasing
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at that point.
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Vipul: Yeah, so if your function is actually
increasing than L will also be approached
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from the left, and if it’s decreasing it
will be approached from the right, but sometimes
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it’s neither increasing nor decreasing, but it's still
true it approaches from one side, so that’s a
little complicated but the way
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this comes up is that when you are dealing
with composition of functions, so when you
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are doing one function and then applying another function to that and you have some results
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with one-sided limits.
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Let me just write this down. If you have one-sided
limits and you have composition,
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so you are doing one function and then doing another
you have to be very careful.
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You need to be very careful when you are doing
one-sided limits and composition.
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Why? Because if you have g of f(x) and x approaches
to c from the left, f(x) approaches L but
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not necessarily from the left.
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You then you have another thing which is as
f(x) approaches L from the left, g of that
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approaches something you just need to be careful
that when you compose things the sidedness
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could change each time you compose.
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Rui: Can you write a composition of the function
out?
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Vipul: Not in this video. We will do that
in another video.
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That’s something we will see in a subsequent
video but this is just something to keep in
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mind so when you see that it will ring a bell.
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Let us do... what other side is left? [pun unintended!]
Rui: Right?
Vipul: Right!
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Vipul: By the way, you probably already know
this if you have seen limits intuitively so
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I'm not stressing this too much but left hand
limit is really the limit as you approach
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from the left. You are not moving toward the
left you are moving from the left to the point.
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Right hand limit will be approach from the
right to the point so it is right, moving from
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the right, so the words left and right are
describing where the limit is coming *from*,
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not the direction which it is going to.
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Now you can just tell me what will be the
corresponding thing. To make sense of this
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notion we need f to be defined where? [ANSWER!]
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Rui: On its right.
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Vipul: On the immediate right of c. If it
is not defined on the immediate right it doesn’t
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even make sense to ask this question what
the right hand limit is.
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How will that be defined?
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Rui: For every epsilon greater than zero
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Vipul: The epsilon is the interval on which
you are trying to trap the function value.
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Rui: There exists epsilon
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Vipul: No, delta
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Rui: delta> 0 such that for all x
with x – c > 0
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Vipul: The general one is for all x with 0<|x-c|<delta
because you want to capture both the intervals.
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In this one, the left hand limit one, we just
captured the left side interval.
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Now in the right one we just want to capture
the right side interval, so as you said 0< x- c < delta.
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In the picture, the function is defined, say c
to c + t and you are really saying you can
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find delta if x is in here [between c and c + delta] which
actually... this is not including c, it is all the points
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in the immediate right of c. We have? [ANSWER!]
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Rui: The absolute value of f(x) – L is less
than epsilon.
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Vipul: So f(x) is? Are we here? We have everything?
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Rui: Yes.
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Vipul: We have both of these here? So do you
see what’s the main difference between these
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two and the actual [two-sided limit] definition?
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For every epsilon there exists delta... the
first second and fourth line remain the same.
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It is this line where you are specifying where
the x are that’s different.
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In the two-sided thing the x could be either place.
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For the left hand limit the x,
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you just want x here [in (c - delta, c)] and
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for the right hand limit you just want x in (c,c + delta).
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Okay? [END!]
Relation between the limit notions
The two-sided limit exists if and only if (both the left hand limit and right hand limit exist and they are equal to each other).
Definition of finite limit for function of one variable in terms of a game
The formal definitions of limit, as well as of one-sided limit, can be reframed in terms of a game. This is a special instance of an approach that turns any statement with existential and universal quantifiers into a game.
Two-sided limit
Consider the limit statement, with specified numerical values of and and a specified function :
Note that there is one trivial sense in which the above statement can be false, or rather, meaningless, namely, that is not defined on the immediate left or immediate right of . In that case, the limit statement above is false, but moreover, it is meaningless to even consider the notion of limit.
The game is between two players, a Prover whose goal is to prove that the limit statement is true, and a Skeptic (also called a Verifier or sometimes a Disprover) whose goal is to show that the statement is false. The game has three moves:
- First, the skeptic chooses , or equivalently, chooses the target interval .
- Then, the prover chooses , or equivalently, chooses the interval .
- Then, the skeptic chooses a value satisfying , or equivalently, , which is the same as .
Now, if (i.e., ), the prover wins. Otherwise, the skeptic wins (see the subtlety about the domain of definition issue below the picture).
We say that the limit statement
is true if the prover has a winning strategy for this game. The winning strategy for the prover basically constitutes a strategy to choose an appropriate in terms of the chosen by the skeptic. Thus, it is an expression of as a function of .
We say that the limit statement
is false if the skeptic has a winning strategy for this game. The winning strategy for the skeptic involves a choice of , and a strategy that chooses a value of (constrained in the specified interval) based on the prover's choice of .
Slight subtlety regarding domain of definition: The domain of definition issue leads to a couple of minor subtleties:
- A priori, it is possible that the chosen by the skeptic is outside the domain of , so it does not make sense to evaluate . In the definition given above, this would lead to the game being won by the skeptic. In particular, if is not defined on the immediate left or right of , the skeptic can always win by picking outside the domain.
- It may make sense to restrict discussion to the cases where is defined on the immediate left or right of . Explicitly, we assume that is defined on the immediate left and immediate right, i.e., there exists such that is defined on the interval . In this case, it does not matter what rule we set regarding the case that the skeptic picks outside the domain. To simplify matters, we could alter the rules in any one of the following ways, and the meaning of limit would remain the same as in the original definition:
- We could require (as part of the game rules) that the prover pick such that . This pre-empts the problem of picking -values outside the domain.
- We could require (as part of the game rules) that the skeptic pick in the domain, i.e., pick with and .
- We could alter the rule so that if the skeptic picks outside the domain, the prover wins (instead of the skeptic winning).
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Non-existence of limit
The statement does not exist could mean one of two things:
- is not defined around , i.e., there is no for which is defined on . In this case, it does not even make sense to try taking a limit.
- is defined around , around , i.e., there is for which is defined on . So, it does make sense to try taking a limit. However, the limit still does not exist.
The formulation of the latter case is as follows:
For every
, there exists
such that for every
, there exists
satisfying
and such that
.
We can think of this in terms of a slight modification of the limit game, where, in our modification, there is an extra initial move by the prover to propose a value for the limit. The limit does not exist if the skeptic has a winning strategy for this modified game.
An example of a function that does not have a limit at a specific point is the sine of reciprocal function. Explicitly, the limit:
does not exist. The skeptic's winning strategy is as follows: regardless of the chosen by the prover, pick a fixed (independent of , so can be decided in advance of the game -- note that the skeptic could even pick and the strategy would still work). After the prover has chosen a value , find a value such that the function value lies outside . This is possible because the interval has width , hence cannot cover the entire interval , which has width 2. However, the range of the function on is all of .
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Conceptual definition and various cases
Formulation of conceptual definition
Below is the conceptual definition of limit. Suppose is a function defined in a neighborhood of the point , except possibly at the point itself. We say that:
if:
- For every choice of neighborhood of (where the term neighborhood is suitably defined)
- there exists a choice of neighborhood of (where the term neighborhood is suitably defined) such that
- for all that are in the chosen neighborhood of
- is in the chosen neighborhood of .
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Functions of one variable case
The following definitions of neighborhood are good enough to define limits.
- For points in the interior of the domain, for functions of one variable: We can take an open interval centered at the point. For a point , such an open interval is of the form . Note that if we exclude the point itself, we get .
- For the point , for functions of one variable: We take intervals of the form , where .
- For the point , for functions of one variable: We can take interval of the form , where .
We can now list the nine cases of limits, combining finite and infinite possibilities:
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For every , there exists such that for all satisfying (i.e., ), we have (i.e., ).
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For every , there exists such that for all satisfying (i.e., ), we have (i.e., ).
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For every , there exists such that for all satisfying (i.e., ), we have (i.e., ).
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For every , there exists such that for all satisfying (i.e., ), we have (i.e., ).
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For every , there exists such that for all satisfying (i.e., ), we have (i.e., ).
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For every , there exists such that for all satisfying (i.e., ), we have (i.e., ).
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For every , there exists such that for all satisfying (i.e., ), we have (i.e., ).
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For every , there exists such that for all satisfying (i.e., ), we have (i.e., ).
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For every , there exists such that for all satisfying (i.e., ), we have (i.e., ).
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Limit of sequence versus real-sense limit
Fill this in later
Real-valued functions of multiple variables case
We consider the multiple input variables as a vector input variable, as the definition is easier to frame from this perspective.
The correct notion of neighborhood is as follows: for a point , we define the neighborhood parametrized by a positive real number as the open ball of radius centered at , i.e., the set of all points such that the distance from to is less than . This distance is the same as the norm of the difference vector . The norm is sometimes denoted . This open ball is sometimes denoted .
Suppose is a real-valued (i.e., scalar) function of a vector variable . Suppose is a point such that is defined "around" , except possibly at . In other words, there is an open ball centered at such that is defined everywhere on that open ball, except possibly at .
With these preliminaries out of the way, we can define the notion of limit. We say that:
if the following holds:
- For every
- there exists such that
- for all satisfying (i.e., is in a ball of radius centered at but not the point itself -- note that the notation is for the norm, or length, of a vector)
- we have . Note that and are both scalars, so the here is the usual absolute value function.
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