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Vipul: In this talk, I'm going to give definitions | |||
of one-sided limits. | |||
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So it is going to be the left hand limit and | |||
the right hand limit, and I'm going to basically | |||
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compare it with the definition of two-sided limit which was in | |||
a previous video. Let's just write this down--left-hand limit. | |||
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Let me first remind you what the definition | |||
of two-sided limit says. | |||
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So here's what it says. It says limit as x approaches | |||
c, f(x) = L | |||
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so f has to be defined on the immediate left and | |||
the immediate right of c. | |||
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It says that this is true if the following | |||
holds so for every epsilon greater than zero | |||
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there exists a delta > 0 such that for all | |||
x which are within delta of c | |||
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either delta on the left of c or within a delta on the | |||
right of c we have that f(x) is within an epsilon | |||
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distance of L. | |||
Okay. Now with the left and right hand limit | |||
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what we are trying to do we are trying to | |||
consider only one-sided approaches on the, on the x | |||
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What will change when we do the left-hand limit | |||
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what will be different from this definition? | |||
[ANSWER!] | |||
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Rui: We approach c from the left. | |||
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Vipul: We'll approach c from the left so | |||
what part of this definition will change? [ANSWER!] | |||
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Rui: From the fourth line? | |||
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Vipul: You mean this line? | |||
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Rui: Oh for all x within c distance, within delta distance of c | |||
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Vipul: So what will change? | |||
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Rui: We will not have (c, c + delta). | |||
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Vipul: This part won’t be there. We will | |||
just be concerned about whether when x is | |||
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delta close on the left side of c, f(x) is here [in (L - epsilon, L + epsilon)]. | |||
Will we change this one also to only include the left? | |||
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Or this one will remain as it is. | |||
Rui: I think it will remain. | |||
Vipul: It will remain as it is because we | |||
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are just saying as x approaches c from the | |||
left f(x) approaches L. | |||
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We are not claiming that f(x) approaches L | |||
from the left. Let me make a number line picture. | |||
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We will do a full geometric understanding | |||
of the thing later. Right now it's just very [formal]. | |||
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So the function is defined on the immediate left | |||
of c, maybe not defined at c. It is defined | |||
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on the immediate left of c. | |||
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We don’t even know if the function | |||
is defined on the right of c and what we are | |||
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saying is that for any epsilon, so any epsilon | |||
around L you can find a delta such that if you restrict | |||
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attention to the interval from c minus delta | |||
to c [i.e., (c- delta, c) in math notation] | |||
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then the f value there is within the epsilon distance of L. | |||
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Now the f value could be epsilon to the left | |||
or the right so we take left hand limit on | |||
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the domain side it doesn’t have to approach | |||
from the left on the other side. | |||
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Let me just write down the full definition. We want to keep this on the side. | |||
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What it says that for every epsilon > 0 there | |||
exists | |||
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by the way, the understanding of the what this definition | |||
really means will come in another video you may have seen before this or after this | |||
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... for all x ... [continuing definition] | |||
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Now we should also change it if we are writing | |||
in this form so how will it read now? | |||
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Rui: For all x ... | |||
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Vipul: So will you put x – c or c – x? [ANSWER!] | |||
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Rui: It will be x – c, oh c – x. | |||
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Vipul: c – x. Because you want c to be bigger | |||
than x. You want x to be on the left of c. | |||
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What would this read, i.e. x is in (c – delta,c). | |||
Okay. | |||
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What do we have? We have the same thing. This part doesn’t change. | |||
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Rui: f(x) is within epsilon distance of L. | |||
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Vipul: Why do I keep saying this thing about the | |||
L approach doesn’t have to be from the left. | |||
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What’s the significance of that? Why is that important? | |||
[ANSWER!] | |||
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Rui: It’s important because we don’t know | |||
whether the function is decreasing or increasing | |||
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at that point. | |||
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Vipul: Yeah, so if your function is actually | |||
increasing than L will also be approached | |||
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from the left, and if it’s decreasing it | |||
will be approached from the right, but sometimes | |||
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it’s neither increasing nor decreasing, but it's still | |||
true it approaches from one side, so that’s a | |||
little complicated but the way | |||
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this comes up is that when you are dealing | |||
with composition of functions, so when you | |||
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are doing one function and then applying another function to that and you have some results | |||
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with one-sided limits. | |||
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Let me just write this down. If you have one-sided | |||
limits and you have composition, | |||
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so you are doing one function and then doing another | |||
you have to be very careful. | |||
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You need to be very careful when you are doing | |||
one-sided limits and composition. | |||
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Why? Because if you have g of f(x) and x approaches | |||
to c from the left, f(x) approaches L but | |||
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not necessarily from the left. | |||
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You then you have another thing which is as | |||
f(x) approaches L from the left, g of that | |||
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approaches something you just need to be careful | |||
that when you compose things the sidedness | |||
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could change each time you compose. | |||
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Rui: Can you write a composition of the function | |||
out? | |||
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Vipul: Not in this video. We will do that | |||
in another video. | |||
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That’s something we will see in a subsequent | |||
video but this is just something to keep in | |||
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mind so when you see that it will ring a bell. | |||
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Let us do... what other side is left? | |||
Rui: Right? | |||
Vipul: Right! | |||
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Vipul: By the way, you probably already know | |||
this if you have seen this intuitively so | |||
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I'm not stressing this too much but left hand | |||
limit is really the limit as you approach | |||
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from the left. You are not moving toward the | |||
left you are moving from the left to the point. | |||
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Right hand limit will be approach from the | |||
right to the point so it is right, moving from | |||
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the right, so the words left and right are | |||
describing where the limit is coming *from*, | |||
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not the direction which it is going to. | |||
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Now you can just tell me what will be the | |||
corresponding thing. To make sense of this | |||
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notion we need f to be defined where? [ANSWER!] | |||
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Rui: On its right. | |||
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Vipul: On the immediate right of c. If it | |||
is not defined on the immediate right it doesn’t | |||
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even make sense to ask this question what | |||
the right hand limit is. | |||
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How will that be defined? | |||
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Rui: For every epsilon greater than zero | |||
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Vipul: The epsilon is the interval on which | |||
you are trying to trap the function value. | |||
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Rui: There exists epsilon | |||
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Vipul: No, delta | |||
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Rui: delta> 0 such that for all x | |||
with x – c > 0 | |||
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Vipul: The general one is for all x with 0<|x-c|<delta | |||
because you want to capture both the intervals. | |||
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In this one, the left hand limit one, we just | |||
captured the left side interval. | |||
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Now in the right one we just want to capture | |||
the right side interval, so as you said 0< x- c < delta. | |||
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In the picture, the function is defined, say c | |||
to c + t and you are really saying you can | |||
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find delta if x is in here [between c and c + delta] which | |||
actually... this is not including c, it is all the points | |||
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in the immediate right of c. We have? [ANSWER!] | |||
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Rui: The absolute value of f(x) – L is less | |||
than epsilon. | |||
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Vipul: So f(x) is? Are we here? We have everything? | |||
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Rui: Yes. | |||
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Vipul: We have both of these here? So do you | |||
see what’s the main difference between these | |||
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two and the actual definition. | |||
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For every epsilon there exists delta, the | |||
first second and fourth line remain the same. | |||
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It is this line where you are specifying where | |||
the x are that’s different. | |||
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In the two-sided thing the x could be either | |||
place. For the left hand limit the x, | |||
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you just want x here and for the right hand limit | |||
want x in c to c + delta. Okay? [END!]</toggledisplay> | |||
===Relation between the limit notions=== | ===Relation between the limit notions=== | ||
Revision as of 22:54, 7 September 2012
Definition for finite limit for function of one variable
Two-sided limit
Left hand limit
Right hand limit
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Relation between the limit notions
Definition of finite limit for function of one variable in terms of a game
Two-sided limit
Non-existence of limit
Conceptual definition and various cases
Formulation of conceptual definition
Functions of one variable case
This covers limits at and to infinity.